Windfoil + wingfoil boards.

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Windfoil + wingfoil boards.

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There are a number of boards appearing that are not designed to SUP, but do windfoil and can be wingfoiled.
Each will maybe have a bias to one or the other.
There may be a convenience benefit also from having tracks if you are using a centre rear strap.

JP Freeride Foil 2020
https://jp-australia.com/p/foil-boards/freefoil-2/

It seems that Nico is using the NP Glide windfoil to wing foil in the video?

Windfoil fuselage and the NP Glide medium slim front wing, plate mounted forward of the tuttle position.


https://www.fanatic.com/sup/composite-b ... up-foil-ws


https://tabou-boards.com/boards/2020/fo ... carpet-20/



https://equipment.robertoriccidesigns.c ... et-ws-y25/
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Re: Windfoil + wingfoil boards.

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that last guy looks determined to break his ankles
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Re: Windfoil + wingfoil boards.

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I like the look of these, but I'm still waiting for the 130-140L board in the same plan shape as all the 110/115 boards in these videos.

200-210cm x 68/70cm & 135L

It doesn't matter if you make a foil board thicker or boxier and the extra volume gives you easier uphauling and earlier flying.
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rod wrote: Sun Mar 29, 2020 2:07 am I like the look of these, but I'm still waiting for the 130-140L board in the same plan shape as all the 110/115 boards in these videos.

200-210cm x 68/70cm & 135L

It doesn't matter if you make a foil board thicker or boxier and the extra volume gives you easier uphauling and earlier flying.
There will be a 130 litre JP Freefoil.
https://jp-australia.com/p/foil-boards/freefoil-2/
https://www.asap-direct.com/products/detail/45921/1
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ronnie wrote: Sun Mar 29, 2020 12:36 pm There will be a 130 litre JP Freefoil.
https://jp-australia.com/p/foil-boards/freefoil-2/

https://www.asap-direct.com/products/detail/45921/1
But 77 wide... And presumably with similarly wide tail.
Basically the same as my Naish micro hover. Which is a brilliant board especially for light winds, but I'd love to try something smaller but as buoyant. So often I need to uphaul, But with freeride foils and small sails don't really feel I need the width.
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Re: Windfoil + wingfoil boards.

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From the Zeeko Wind Wing Foil board boxes, it seems that while it might be possible to wing the Slingshot Freestyle, it probably isn't ideal, and Slingshot have another board for wingfoiling. So I will remove the Slingshot Freestyle from this section.

http://zeeko-kites.com/gb/windfoil-seri ... 12315.html
187 x 72cm 106L
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ronnie wrote: Sun Mar 29, 2020 1:15 pm The Slingshot Freestyle comes in a 115L 188cm by 71cm and has the combination of DT and 2xUS boxes.
I love the look of this too, but where is the 130L x 190cm x 70cm board... Guess we will have to wait another year...
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I have recently got the RRD pocket rocket. I have wind foiled it 4 times and tried it once with a wing. early impressions are great.
The wing was an interesting and humbling experience :lol:
I am looking forward to a bit more of both disciplines when we are allowed out to play again.
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nimo wrote: Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:14 pm I have recently got the RRD pocket rocket. I have wind foiled it 4 times and tried it once with a wing. early impressions are great.
The wing was an interesting and humbling experience :lol:
I am looking forward to a bit more of both disciplines when we are allowed out to play again.
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Re: Windfoil + wingfoil boards.

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My current quiver is an 88 Stubby for higher wind windsurf and a JP 105 freestyle 2020 for lighter wind windsurfing (and foiling).

The two foil oriented boards are the JP 105 Foil 204cm by 70cm, and a JP 115 SUP foil 213cm by 71cm.

I could replace both those boards if I could have one board which I could use for windfoiling, wingfoiling and SUPing with a fin. We only rarely get proper waves where I live and they are created locally, so riding waves is not a priority.

I enjoy SUPing for exercise when the wind is too light to sail. The 105 works better than the SUP Foil for going out to SUP with a fin in it. That is mainly because of how rearward the fin can be and I have been using a weed fin, which I am now cutting down to make jumping onto the board easier in shallow water. I have back problems and if I have to paddle with a lot of torque to make the board go straight, it can injure my back.
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I've also added more deck pad - I find that the usual deck grip shreds the skin off my legs if I'm paddling, using a wing or uphauling when windfoiling. This is it set up strapless (excuse the mud!). I use pairs of overlapped pigtails to create carrying handles. They lie flat when not needed and go to full length when needed as a handle, as shown with the closest one.
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Another thing I like about the Duotone boom is it's potential to be used as a paddle if you need to self-rescue (the boom outer diameter is about 25mm). I have modified a cheap kids paddle blade, but a big SUP blade would be more powerful (I don't recommend the MINOW blade - it was too much work to modify and is smaller and less powerful than a proper big SUP blade). I have a mesh backpack I can carry the blade in.
The new oval section boom will complicate getting a SUP blade to fit - might need a 3D printed one? Duotone don't plan to make one.
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Because the volume is so much in the tail, I have to stand further back, which when SUPing makes it more difficult to paddle straight, but it is still relatively easy. The start of a J stroke has to be directed across the board in front of the fin(s).

The new JP 115 Freefoil 204cm by 70cm has a better (more even) volume distribution for being used as a SUP. Although Nico Prien suggested they were going to add strap positions for wing foiling, that doesn't seem to have happened. Nico seemed to be using a windfoil fuselage when he was winging it.

I've also tried windsurfing the 105 with the full length weed fin, and while it can be done, it seemed to always want to go upwind, so doesn't feel balanced.

For foiling, I've always used the 105 with the NP Large Glide so far and find that I would like the front straps slightly further forward - I also have a Medium wing which will probably suit the strap positions more.
I'm now switching to using the 105 without straps to SUP and we shall see how that goes for windfoiling - I haven't tried it yet, and want also to try it for wingfoiling with the windfoil fuselage if I can get an XL front wing.

The JP 7' 115L SUP foil I haven't tried foiling yet. It will work for windfoiling and wingfoiling, and should suit wingfoiling better - especially if I get an XL Glide wing.

So far I have been SUPing it with a weed fin at the back of the track and winging on it with a fin at the front of the track.

So far, I cannot see a 2020 production board available that is ideal for what I want. I would like a board that is about 70cm wide and under 2m long, that will windfoil, wingfoil and SUP. The Zeeko 106 is close, as is the JP Freefoil 115.
I'll also have to be wingfoiling before I can make an educated judgement as to what single board would be best for me.
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