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Surfbox roofbox

Post by Smidge » Tue Jan 01, 2019 9:28 am

Happy new year. Does anyone have any views on these specialist surbox roofboxes from Germany. Im trying to figure a way to occasionally transport five people plus luggage, 2 boards etc. Instead of spending many thousands on a large van and suffering the poorer fuel economy and handling all the time (in that context the big cost of the box becomes leas of a problem) the idea would be to just keep the current MPV and strap everything to it. The box i had in mind is this the Big-Malibu roof box with surfboard rack 265 x 90 x 44 cm - you can fit a board inside and 2 in theory on top. Main downside seems to me the max roof load of the car whch is 85kg whilst box weighs 27 - but i think i can just about make it within those constraints. Plus that loading the box if being used for non windsurf stuff would be a hassle as it hinges at nose and tieing a board on top could be a bit of an epic. In any event we need a new really big roofbox for family trips away so it would get used for non windsurf purposes too. Details copied from website below:

The Big-Malibu roof box is a modern and very stable fibreglass roof box (GRP) that is equipped with all the clever product characteristics. Ideal for surfing and other holidays: it is ideal for the transport of surf equipment, but also for ski equipment or other luggage.

The Big-Malibu is available in a sleek glossy white. For a small fee you can order the Big-Malibu in glossy black, glossy grey and glossy silver. Accessories: All Inclusive roof box.

Made of fibreglass. Exclusive roof box. Only from Mobila. This roof box has no recesses for the carrying inserts. The minimum distance of the rear attachment to the end of the roof box is 65 cm. The provided installation area between the roof beams is 61-120 cm.
However, it can easily be extended to its full length, as the bottom portion is specifically reinforced.
The roof box automatically opens from behind upwards, and can easily be loaded from the back and sides. This is the only safe way to be on the road at high speeds! It has two front screwed NIROSTA stainless steel hinges, inside two pneumatic springs, and at the rear three clamps made from NIROSTA stainless steel to prevent sudden opening of the box. Unrivalled theft protection is thereby automatically integrated.

Big-Malibu ca. 1000 l

This big roof box is ideal for surfers, whose equipment includes 4-5 masts (length < 264 cm), 3-4 boom and 7-10 sails or 1-2 Boards (<263/81cm ) inside and the others on top. There is also enough space for small items. The roof box is prepared to transport surfboards on the cover. Depending on the distribution of gravity, the pneumatic springs will automatically lift surfboards of up to 20 kg.

Example Big-Malibu

The surfboard rack can be removed
Manufactured from fibreglass
Nirosta stainless steel fittings included
Nirosta stainless steel mounting kit included
Nirosta stainless steel T-stones are possible*
Glossy nano-coating and sealing included
Completely UV resistant
Roof box is lockable
2 strong pneumatic springs
Aerodynamic, torsion-resistant
Suitable for all vehicles and vehicle systems
Variable mounting (smooth base)
Dimensions: approx. 265 x 90 x 44 cm (maximum internal length is approx. 264 cm)
Only 27 kg Weight
130 kg carrying capacity

https://surfbox.de/en/roof-boxes-shop/r ... oss-silver

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Re: Surfbox roofbox

Post by grantmac » Wed Jan 15, 2020 7:04 pm

I realize I'm replying a year later, but I've dealt with the same problem. Not wanting a van but needing to carry gear.

I've found a Thule Combi 600 for $150USD. These are not very common in North America but I kept my eyes open until I found one locally. I think it was easier because we have quite a lot of skiing.

This box will hold a 229x66 freestyle board, 2 masts, 3 sails and a boom if you pack carefully. I've even stretched that to 3 masts and 4 sails. I have it mounted asymmetrically on my roof and with a very wide set of roof bars I can then mount a "gorge rack" style board holder beside it to carry 2 more wave boards.

Quite frankly this box has doubled my sailing opportunities because I can keep a set of gear ready to go 24/7, especially on my way home from work.

I'm not sure what I'll do if this box ever breaks, probably build a custom one just a touch taller.

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Re: Surfbox roofbox

Post by Smidge » Fri Jan 17, 2020 8:44 am

I ended up buying an old Quiverack box on ebay (UK specific windsurf specific fibreglass roof box -went out of production years ago). Fits a 460 mast, two big race sails and an old techno boom - and is narrow enough that daughter race board can fit next to it on the roof. Not ideal though as it wont fit the newer style wider techno boom, and no gear for anyone else (although you can strap a short board to the top of it. Currently thinking about a trailer.

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Re: Surfbox roofbox

Post by DaveMac » Fri Jan 17, 2020 2:57 pm

Hi Smidge
Bit bored as missed my sailing opportunity by 2 hours....tide too high to launch, not going to Worthing. Just about to unload our Galaxy.
So, my thoughts.....I've an old ski box roof box, and a normal family roofbox, and a 6x4 camping trailer. Storage at home and parking at the venue are always the issues with trailers. And the speed limit and not going in the outside lane. But they are good for making the car comfortable for people and luggage. Staying in Travel Lodges or whatever no problem, just detach and use a locking device in a separate bay. Once got a parking ticket for parking in a coach bay while we had a picnic.....Obviously you need to factor in the cost of a towbar which on an older car may make the project seem pointless/prohibitive. But a trailer is a great thing, a luxury in terms of not straining to get everything into onto the car. And that is my point about roofboxes.....again useful. But with a people carrier climbing up to load them is a bit of a pain.The height is awkward. Reckon they are best on ordinary family estates. For windsurfing if I am using the roof bars I just strap the board/s on old style. Boom on top. Then with your race sails I would get a sails kit bag to tie down on top of everything which would not compress the sails. I use a very old sail bag which takes 3 sails but the zip is bust...it gives a bit of protection to the sails. People carriers are great and with different add ons they work well. And you can resell the add ons once you don't need them, and probably won't have lost much. So no rocket science just thoughts you have probably already had. :D

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Re: Surfbox roofbox

Post by emgee » Fri Jan 17, 2020 4:37 pm

I bought a Surfbox direct from Germany many years ago. It's fantastic. Keeps all your wet sails out of the car, can swallow a FSW board if preferred, and with additonal roof bars on top for longer/wider boards, there's plenty of options. I keep my kit in it year round, always ready to go. Good quality too.

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Re: Surfbox roofbox

Post by Smidge » Fri Jan 17, 2020 5:42 pm

My thinking goes like this: When its just me going, I can just stuff all my gear including 2 or 3 boards inside the people carrier car and shoot off down the motorway. If Im taking my daughter to a race event, and the forecast is too light for me to bother then we can fit her stuff inside, or put board on roof. If forecast is looking good for me and her then it becomes a squeeze with the gear in and on the car, but doable if Im OK with 1 board and a couple of sails.

So I only need the trailer or mega roofbox when there are more of us going somewhere - e.g. day at the beach, visit to holiday home. Thats 3 kids, 1 wife, 3 of us windsurf (but not often simultaneous due to child care) and 1 daughter likes to ride a tandem bike..... So Im now thinking I need to be able to accommodate min 3/4 boards, 6/7/ sails, 2/3 booms, couple of foils, a normal bike and a tandem, plus 5 people and luggage - but on an occasional basis.

Hence focus moved on to trailer - will be a big cost but nothing like it would be if I got a van big enough to do all that with, and no big regular costs like insurance and service. We rented a trailer yesterday (already got towbar for bike rack) and experimented driving it around, saw how it fitted on drive etc etc. Yes its mildly irritating to be limited to 60mph and not allowed in outside lane of motorways, and parking takes some thought (I finally see the point of McDonalds drive thru), and reversing is mind bending - but my alternative would probably be a massive Sprinter, which would also have major parking problems, also wouldnt be the most spritely drive and I would need to drive it all the time - not just on the occasions when I need it.

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Re: Surfbox roofbox

Post by DaveMac » Fri Jan 17, 2020 6:04 pm

Emgee, do you have an estate car, hatchback or a people carrier? Just wondering if the loading height bothers you?
Smidge, just saw your reply. Yup, that amount of kit bikes and people means a trailer is unavoidable. I have fudged my trailer use as it is a simple 6x4 trailer about 2ft deep. I fit boards on by two bars of wood, like roof bars accross the trailer top. I remove a pedal on our tandem and can get that on the car roof and other bikes go on the upright bike carrier mounted on the tow bar. But I'm the only windsurfer in the family, I reckon a more dedicated windsurf trailer would be great for doing the job properly (plus a mount for the tandem on the trailer would be nice). But I imagine costs a bit pricey unless you have the skills to build something suitable. The joys of being a family with toys :lol:

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Re: Surfbox roofbox

Post by emgee » Sat Jan 18, 2020 9:12 am

I have an estate. I am slightly vertically challenged so it wouldn't work so well for me on top of a people carrier or SUV.

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Re: Surfbox roofbox

Post by maker » Sun Jan 19, 2020 9:38 am

Why a box? Why not just strap gear to roof rack (I used to)?
I eventially used to have a trailer too and brilliant especially if you have soewhere dry to store with gear strapped on to it. Increased my sailing as minutes to hook up to car after work. being limited to 60 made surprisingly ;ittle difference even on long journies. Old trailers come of for severla hundred pounds.

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Re: Surfbox roofbox

Post by emgee » Mon Jan 20, 2020 12:42 pm

Security, and time saving.

You can leave your kit locked in a roof box and not worry about it getting pinched. And, as it's always there, I just throw a board in/on and off I go.

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