Bought an Fanatic+echo, a new journey :)

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Got out yesterday, still enjoying my Slingshot but its days are numbered.
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I switched yesterday with the AK6.0 x 110l of a friend who was using the GoFoil IWA.
It was shocking how slow it was compared to the Sab. It felt all the time like I was on the handbrake, did collect weed or something like that.
Once you know the trick the faster foil makes live easier, jibing, waveriding, upwind and probably jumping as well.
My advice: spoil yourself and get an mid/highaspect foil you won,t regret it!
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rod wrote: Mon Jun 28, 2021 2:31 pm Got out yesterday, still enjoying my Slingshot but its days are numbered.

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Nice jumps , I tried a few last session but more of a foil breach than actually getting good air !

I see your in position B on the fuse , for me I find B good for when it’s flatter sea state and lighter wind ,there’s a lot more lift and can do tighter turns but I have to stand way in front of the straps, even with the foil pulled right back.
I use position A for when there’s swell or above around 14knts , this puts my feet directly over the strap holes but feels slightly dulled down on performance but stops me breaching on larger swell etc.
Have you found similar?
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I only use pos B and always use the straps. I like the force up through my front foot and rarely breach. I tried pos A and couldn't get on with it. The foil always felt a bit squirrely and no matter how far forward I put in the box it didn't feel far enough. (I'm using an infinity 84 foil and longer windsurf fuselage)
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I ended up getting the 799 as my small wing, and had my first go on it today. Conditions were 15kts going up to 25G30kts by the end. Some nice waist-high swell to ride, which is seriously good fun!

First off, it's a really nice wing. It feels like a more maneuverable i76, but with less drag. I was pretty powered up, but it felt easy to get going. I also felt really safe using it, even in fairly strong winds. Some of the high AR wings with pointed tips look terrifying.

The only issue I had is that even with the foil right at the back of the box, it was slightly too front-footed for me. The solution is either get a smaller stab, or reduce the AoA with a custom shim, or maybe get the 700HS fuselage which has a lower stab AoA by 0.8degrees.

It's an excellent wing, and would be very good for windfoiling too.
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rod wrote: Mon Jun 28, 2021 2:31 pm Got out yesterday, still enjoying my Slingshot but its days are numbered.

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Just back from first session on an Armstrong HS1850 after using Slingshot i84 and 68 for windfoiling and winging since last November. Big decision going with the Armstrong but so far I am super impressed with the construction and the way it rides.
My Slingshot system was on second fuselage and third screw sets which I changed from titanium to A4 because I snapped the fuse off the mast SUP surfing. The aluminium parts are all wearing out now and I wanted a replacement that could be left assembled and didn’t have corrosion issues. Also riding AFS W85 for windfoiling which is great and have upgraded to F1080 front wing. Recently ordered a W95 foil to upgrade the mast. Can leave the AFS foils assembled for ages with no issues as they are all carbon and A4.
It’s early days riding the Armstrong but it was very efficient feeling and feels great, much more responsive to pumping and pitch than the Slingshot but the rear stab 232 is tiny compared to the SS. Both use 60cm fuselages.
Works OK in a Starboard Hypernut v1 strapless but there is no adjustment in the US boxes as they are just too short. The board is getting upgraded soon so just happy it works for now.
Anyway Slingshot to Armstrong, recommended.
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Are you gonna go for an Armstrongh board as well?
I have seen one in the flesh and it was gorgious.
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Jeroensurf wrote: Mon Jul 05, 2021 9:03 pm Are you gonna go for an Armstrongh board as well?
I have seen one in the flesh and it was gorgious.
Yes, have a 118l Forward Geometry board preordered. It’s a bit of a leap as there are no proper photos or specs.
Dealers have had briefings and launch is on the 7th July.
Handles top and bottom, V straps, 118litres and 5’11”. No idea how wide it is. Expected in UK at the end of the month.
There are a few video clips about but no proper photos yet. Has very forward Foil tracks.
I did try to buy an Ensis Rock n Roll 117 but couldn’t get one, like a lot of boards they had very long lead times.
So went with the advice from here and elsewhere, board and foil from same manufacturer.
Frothing to try it as they say :)
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Like Rod im feeling like its time to treat myself to new foils! Ive really enjoyed my sling shots but now feeling i would like a higher aspect foil and smaller front foil wings to go out in stronger winds.
My local (ish) shop stocks F1s , has anyone used these? They seem to get good reviews.
Also do higher aspect foils have a larger turning arc than lower aspect?
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Width of the foil is really what determines the turning arc.

High AR foils are wider than low AR foils for the same amount of lift, so won't turn as well. However, a smaller high AR wing could well turn better than a bigger low aspect wing.

Higher AR wings have less induced drag (drag induced by lift), because they limit the formation of vortices:
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If you look at your airliner when you go on holiday, you'll probably see large wingtips, which also limit these vortices and reduce induced drag by roughly 5%.
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