Foiling stance - rig geometry... Advice pls

Foiling related talk in here
User avatar
rod
Posts: 228
Joined: Fri Nov 09, 2018 10:14 am
Has liked: 110 times
Been liked: 67 times

Re: Foiling stance - rig geometry... Advice pls

Post by rod » Tue Jun 18, 2019 12:17 pm

64634746_348590619161409_9177398719803293696_n.jpg
64634746_348590619161409_9177398719803293696_n.jpg (544.98 KiB) Viewed 129 times

User avatar
rod
Posts: 228
Joined: Fri Nov 09, 2018 10:14 am
Has liked: 110 times
Been liked: 67 times

Re: Foiling stance - rig geometry... Advice pls

Post by rod » Tue Jun 18, 2019 12:20 pm

foil1.jpg
foil1.jpg (152.41 KiB) Viewed 129 times

deckchair
Posts: 61
Joined: Tue Apr 09, 2019 8:17 am
Location: leigh-on-sea
Has liked: 5 times
Been liked: 6 times

Re: Foiling stance - rig geometry... Advice pls

Post by deckchair » Tue Jun 18, 2019 1:31 pm

from the photo's your trying to windsurf the foil . bend at the knee, front leg more and lean forward like on a snowboard . definitely move those hands forward . looking good for only a few hours

User avatar
rod
Posts: 228
Joined: Fri Nov 09, 2018 10:14 am
Has liked: 110 times
Been liked: 67 times

Re: Foiling stance - rig geometry... Advice pls

Post by rod » Tue Jun 18, 2019 2:19 pm

Thanks I know that the stance in the top photo is really bad. Part of the problem is just being comfortable and able to hook in (short lines on the way).

Thanks to Steve for taking these pics, the guy below was pulling of 360s and duck gybes effortlessly so I suspect that this is the stance to emulate. He was using 1m smaller sail than me too!
64460917_2214148412007868_8829663362766864384_n.jpg
64460917_2214148412007868_8829663362766864384_n.jpg (123.04 KiB) Viewed 123 times

ronnie
Posts: 315
Joined: Fri Dec 21, 2018 6:37 pm
Has liked: 35 times
Been liked: 49 times

Re: Foiling stance - rig geometry... Advice pls

Post by ronnie » Tue Jun 18, 2019 3:25 pm

This is an Australian Naish distributor windfoiling the Hover 122 and Thrust WS windfoil foil. He is 6' 2" and 95kg. It might give a starting point for where to put the mastbase and the footstraps? Carrying an allen key and moving the foil from the back of the track gradually forward until it feels balanced is what I did with my Zeeko foil.



Your boom is quite high Rod. I tend to have mine a bit lower than when I windsurf (maybe 2" lower and just under the middle of the cut-out instead of just above the middle). I found over the years that a lower boom tends to increase the mastfoot pressure, so it might tend to lower the nose of the board? It also takes a certain amount of speed for the foil to feel pitch stable, and that varies from foil to foil and how the foil is adjusted.

User avatar
rod
Posts: 228
Joined: Fri Nov 09, 2018 10:14 am
Has liked: 110 times
Been liked: 67 times

Re: Foiling stance - rig geometry... Advice pls

Post by rod » Tue Jun 18, 2019 4:16 pm

Thanks ronnie , I put my boom up extra high (read that somewhere) but agree it does look much too high now!

I can see on the vid his back straps are back and front straps quite forward with mastfoot back from the centre. Very helpful!

Sailrepair
Posts: 150
Joined: Fri Nov 23, 2018 4:59 pm
Has liked: 1 time
Been liked: 58 times

Re: Foiling stance - rig geometry... Advice pls

Post by Sailrepair » Wed Jun 19, 2019 6:45 pm

I use lines 4" shorter than on my wave boards (28") and I have my boom just 1" higher. I also have the lines a fraction forward and I hold the boom more forward than normal. If it get windy and I am over powered my hands go much further forward on the boom. It makes it easier to push down through the mast to reduce height.

I have used the naish hoover and foil and found it quite intuitive to use. It is one of the easier boards to use at first as it can work with a near standard windsurf stance where some other setups require a complete change of stance.

I would not pay too much attention to someone else's stance as a different foil and board may call for a different stance altogether. It does take a while to find a comfortable position.

nimo
Posts: 48
Joined: Wed Jun 19, 2019 9:34 pm
Has liked: 16 times
Been liked: 16 times

Re: Foiling stance - rig geometry... Advice pls

Post by nimo » Wed Jun 19, 2019 9:41 pm

I use my usual 32 inch lines with the boom a little lower than on my wave board.
As soon as you pop up on to the foil move your hands forward on the boom so that your back hand is where your harness lines would normally be and your front hand quite close to the mast. Move your harness line forward . straighten your back leg and bend your front leg. in short relearn everything :D
I have been foiling for a few months now and love it. better than normal sailing by a country mile when you get it.

User avatar
rod
Posts: 228
Joined: Fri Nov 09, 2018 10:14 am
Has liked: 110 times
Been liked: 67 times

Re: Foiling stance - rig geometry... Advice pls

Post by rod » Wed Jun 19, 2019 10:03 pm

Thanks Sailrepair (thanks also for the WC mast extension, ace piece of kit) and thanks nimo

Much better today am definitely starting to get the hang of it.
A lot less wind today, probably under 12knots in all but the biggest gusts, my foil pumping technique has also improved.
IMG_9262 copy.JPG
IMG_9262 copy.JPG (231.21 KiB) Viewed 79 times

nimo
Posts: 48
Joined: Wed Jun 19, 2019 9:34 pm
Has liked: 16 times
Been liked: 16 times

Re: Foiling stance - rig geometry... Advice pls

Post by nimo » Wed Jun 19, 2019 10:17 pm

I find that the shorter harness lines restrict the pumping. I find myself too close to the boom to control the rig.

Post Reply