PWA Slalom 2021.

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Day 2. Report.
https://www.pwaworldtour.com/index.php? ... 308d435791

Better coverage on day 2 - but they could improve it a lot by using the drone to film the races. When the drone is working and following from upwind of the racers, the coverage is excellent - because the sun is behind the drone.

Maciek lost 3rd place on one final leg by picking up weed. His smallest foil sail is an 8.1m.

Nicolas Goyard was using a 430 sq cm front wing on his high speed foil, and a 6m sail. Blanca Alabau uses a 550 sq cm wing for stronger wind. Sebastian Kordell uses a 650 front wing for strong wind.

Antoine Albeau was disqualified from Elimination 2 because he sailed through his heat on his way back out (and interfered with the race) - after he was late in a period they had given the racers to change gear - and they didn't wait for him to make the start.


There have been complaints about the course setting with some upwind legs happening during races. That is also favouring foils in mixed races. The wind can be varying from 8 to 30 knots on the courses with the wind lighter closer to the shore.

If they had consistent strong wind and set broader reaches, there would be a closer match between Nicolas Goyard on the foil and the top guys on fins.







Results after Day 2.
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Day 3
I missed this Intro video from Monday. Better late than ....



The live stream.
https://www.pwaworldtour.com/index.php? ... 74361fd772
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Looks a gusty inland spot. Stick the 3rd mark in a wind shadow and the foils glide around unaffected, those on fins struggle.
Racing on foils they wouldnt need to cancel a heat if a lull hit, all on fins and they cancel a heat.
The slalom spot looks gustier than Poole Harbour.
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Congratulations to Sarah Jackson winning the final of the 3rd womens slalom elimination. A brilliant race and some of the best visuals so far until they missed her over the finish line!
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BillG wrote: Wed Jun 23, 2021 3:21 pm Congratulations to Sarah Jackson winning the final of the 3rd womens slalom elimination. A brilliant race and some of the best visuals so far until they missed her over the finish line!
Yes a great result for Sarah - she controlled the race from start to finish! The camera did follow Sarah across the line, but not in a way where you could see where Marion Mortefon finished - as it turned out, Sarah bore off and pumped enough to keep her lead in the lighter wind.

In the video below, you can see Sarah's wake when the camera cuts back to Mortefon (also on a Duotone sail) as Marion follows Sarah across the finish line.

Also worth watching the Women's Foil in very strong wind at 2:29:00 in the video.
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Great result for Jackson. I missed it live.

3 hours 51 minutes into this upload of the livestream. Good gybing skills, 1st and 3rd gybes are in a wind shadow.

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It was another day of variables.

The wind was variable and gusty, but that seems to be par for the location recently.

The quality of the filming was also variable from very good to poor, but at least the internet data capacity was higher, so there was very little breakdown of the picture.

The competitors seemed to have figured out the conditions better and the setting of the courses also seemed to be a bit better. Surprisingly there were a lot more premature starts - including one case where 7 sailors were disqualified at the start.
There were more close races today than on the previous two days - including mixed fin/foil races.

It does seem to be a location where it is very difficult to make the right decision as to whether foil or fin is faster, as it depended a lot on what the variable wind strength was at the first and third marks.

Overall, given it is the third day, the quality of the video coverage is still too inconsistent and poorly managed.
Races are short and simple and the pattern for covering them by drone should be simple to plan. Sometimes the drone work was excellent, and it was on average better than on the previous days.
The chase boat covering the first leg was at times excellent, but only happened occasionally and on one occasion caused a race to be cancelled due to interference.

It is their first event and the organiser had no previous knowledge of PWA Events (with erratic wind and several races cancelled) - so they do deserve a lot of credit for what they have achieved. The 'flying by the seat of your pants' instead of a pre-set schedule must have been difficult when it is being screened on Israeli TV.
It does seem there is a willingness to repeat the Event next year and probably extend it to include freestyle - so based on their attitude and how they have done so far, they may be able to run a very professional, slick and successful bigger Event next year.
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I had it on while working today and really enjoyed it.

The short course with very gusty winds makes the racing very watchable. In almost all slalom races the guy out front on the 2nd reach wins. But not here. With such light wind at the 3rd mark this was very interesting as it was often a battle for control on the start line and many overshooting but by the time they were gybing for the 3rd time they were dropping of the plane and pumping to get going. That and the mix of foil and fin gave the race a very strange dynamic - great to watch. Ben was excellent on commentary and the coverage was good when it worked and that was most of the time. It could be excellent if they got the camera boat and drone working together. It would not take much to get a few extra camera angles out there - why not just park a boat as the first gybe mark and stick a camera man in it.

For those that didn't watch the majority were favouring the fin but the leader Goyard is on a foil. Going of what Ben was saying in commentary he has put the work in on his high wind foil where as most assumed that for 7~8m sails and medium boards the fins would be faster. Clearly if you can handle a high speed foil then you can have an edge. Goyard was not the only foil, the others that tried seemed to be slower and i assume they were on slower foils tuned for less wind - the tuning of foils is clearly going to be a big thing. A possible negative here is that the racing could become super technical around the issue of foil set ups. Are there rules on how many foils you can have?
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BTB wrote: Wed Jun 23, 2021 9:16 pm I had it on while working today and really enjoyed it.

The short course with very gusty winds makes the racing very watchable. In almost all slalom races the guy out front on the 2nd reach wins. But not here. With such light wind at the 3rd mark this was very interesting as it was often a battle for control on the start line and many overshooting but by the time they were gybing for the 3rd time they were dropping of the plane and pumping to get going. That and the mix of foil and fin gave the race a very strange dynamic - great to watch. Ben was excellent on commentary and the coverage was good when it worked and that was most of the time. It could be excellent if they got the camera boat and drone working together. It would not take much to get a few extra camera angles out there - why not just park a boat as the first gybe mark and stick a camera man in it.

For those that didn't watch the majority were favouring the fin but the leader Goyard is on a foil. Going of what Ben was saying in commentary he has put the work in on his high wind foil where as most assumed that for 7~8m sails and medium boards the fins would be faster. Clearly if you can handle a high speed foil then you can have an edge. Goyard was not the only foil, the others that tried seemed to be slower and i assume they were on slower foils tuned for less wind - the tuning of foils is clearly going to be a big thing. A possible negative here is that the racing could become super technical around the issue of foil set ups. Are there rules on how many foils you can have?
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